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Michael Knight 401V8 craigslist
scam; aka USMen Inc. scam; aka
CraigsList AMC 401 Scam
The newest information is at the top
NEW: scammer still at it and warrants out see this link
Michael Knight Louisville Most Wanted Mugshot 2013
New veterans scam
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New: August 2013
Michael Knight / Michael Barlow (aka "Randy") was just discovered to have been renting a room from a couple in Phoenix, AZ. After being discovered (see how here), he packed up a trailer that night & hit the road! A recent traffic stop there resulted in Michael being taken in for fingerprinting, since he refused to produce an ID & gave multiple names. The prints came back as "Michael Barlow". It has been confirmed that the man known to Louisville, KY authorities as "Michael Knight" & seen on their most wanted site is the same man who was renting the room in Phoenix, AZ for the last 7 months & known to AZ authorities as "Michael Barlow". When Michael was busted in the late 90s for pulling the same 401 scam, both names "Knight" & "Barlow" were used. (Click to see)More New: August 2013
Scammer Michael Knight targeting craigslist ads:
On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:05 PM, mike@usmeninc.com wrote: Info. 2 rear doors from a 46
dodge panel. Rust free az . Will try to get pictures. Assumed you know what they look
like. Old and dusty. "Ok How 'bout a shipping address so I can get an estimate. Phone
# also… Thanks Ray" They will be coming out of Phoenix, az 85051 Corp.
702-769-3547. I can suggest the company we have used several times. Jerry. special-delivery@live.com
They delivered a 73 Ranchero from Phoenix to Jupiter, FL for $500.00 2 years ago. Bst deal
I could find. "They will be coming out of Phoenix, az 85051 Corp. 702-769-3547. I can
suggest the company we have used several times. Jerry. special-delivery@live.com
They delivered a 73 Ranchero from Phoenix to Jupiter, FL for $500.00 2 years ago. Bst deal
I could find." Yes, it's US MEN, INC. However, we can do this personally if you want.
I try to support America and only use United States Postal Money Orders. Simple, Secure
and supportive. They also cannot be stopped like all checks. They are tracable and
replacable. Everyone is disclosed. Sorry, old school. Did you read owr webpage? umeninc.com "If I
do that who do I make it out to?" Aug 7, 2013, at 11:46 AM, mike@usmeninc.com
wrote Jim Perrin, 3328 W. Mountain View Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85051. Did you find a shipping
compamy? How much do they want? Are you in a hurry? "Who's Jim? Does he have the
doors? What's his # Thanks RAy" On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:42 PM, mike@usmeninc.com
wrote: Book Keeper. He will oversee the payment and shipping. "yes - take pics and
send them, as soon as I can confirm they're the ones we'll move on this Thanks Ray"
On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:18 PM, <mike@usmeninc.com>
wrote: There are only one set of doors for a 46 panel. Don't have anyone (like I said) to
run out there and take pictures. Not part of their job description. I mean....think about
it....anyone could get pictures and send them. You will never know until you get them.
However, by written contract, I am setting forth that they are rust free, and they are
1946 Dodge Panel doors. If this isn't logical enough, then you may want to keep looking..
Maybe they make new ones?????? Mike. USMRN, INC. " To: <mike@usmeninc.com>
Mike, why can’t you get your web site correct? In the emails you refer to it as
USMRN, INC. and umeninc.com
Shouldn’t that be USMEN, INC – USMENINC.com? Your website USMENINC.COM was
created 06/02/2013 and updated 06/13/2013. City: Louisville State/Province: Kentucky
Postal Code: 40212 Country: United States Phone: 502-723-2669 The Phone # 502-723-2669
doesn’t come up in any web searches. Searching for the corp # 702-769-3547
doesn’t come up with any companies. So, Jim Perrin, 3328 W. Mountain View Rd,
Phoenix, AZ 85051 is the bookkeeper working out of a one story house in a residential
neighborhood. You can send someone out to remove the doors but not take a pic with a phone
because they don’t have a title for that job? I mean....think about it....anyone
could say they have the parts and insist on United States Postal Money Orders that
can’t be stopped… By the way, No way ANYONE would deliver a 73 Ranchero from
Phoenix to Jupiter, FL for $500.00 Oh again, by the way, I came across this info as soon
as I searched info about you when I got your first e-mail.
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/michael-knight-401v8-craigslist-usmen-inc-scam.htm
usmen-inc-scam 5 years ago same cities involved - KY, AZ, Vegas. Same usmen-inc info…
Just in case you’re one in the same. I have sent all e-mails and raw headers with the IP address 68.178.252.70 coming from Scottsdale, Arizona to: http://www.louisvilleky.gov/MetroPolice/LouisvillesMostWanted/MICHAEL+KNIGHT.htm
Louisville Metro Police Department 633 West Jefferson Street Louisville,
Kentucky 40202 (502) 574-7660
http://www.lmpd.org/ If not, oh
well… In case you haven’t figured it out, NO on the doors…
From: <mike@usmeninc.com>
Subject: RE: Dodge panel doors Date: August 7, 2013 8:50:29 PM EDT
First off, I think you are a nut case. Secondly, I just contacted my attorney regarding
slander, defamation of character, and libel. Third, My area code is (702), not 502, I
checked all my emails and there is no mention of USMRN, not that hae not made a typeo in
my life. Fourth, I live in Las Vegas. Fifth, Have not been to Louisville since Derby 2000.
Sixth, you are a nut case. Seventh, Since the website was only created in June, and it
takes four-five months, to list..............duh. Eighth, we get donations from
everywhere. Can't send someone 278 miles to take pics. Nineth....you are a nut case.
tenth, The guy who delivered the Ranchero was named George and he now works for AVANTI
TRUCKING out of PA. MR. wannabe knowit nothing. Surely, you can check it out. And, Lastly,
the last name is not Knight, but, I guess you can figure that out if you are good enough.
My address is listed. Send whoever you want, you will be the fool. Just to bring you up to
speed, only one person has to act as a registered agent. Corp. legally filed in NV.
Someone who would waste so much time to be right...is one thing, stupid. To waste so much
time and be WRONG...........well....nut case.
06/30/08
Chuck receives a call from Keith Ratliff:
Keith(below) tells Chuck more about his dealings with Michael Joey Wright and provides the ebay account and email
address(junkmanjoes@aol.com) that was used for
his scam. During the call, Keith also finds his account on MySpace and confirms that this is the guy he tracked
down at the pet grooming shop. Keith stated "The item I bought was a 1989 Honda Elite
150 Scooter, Red in color, good tires and title, 1700 or 1400 miles. I paid $1950.00 for
it and paid with Western Union money orders. He had me send them in $50 increments.".
05/28/08
Chuck receives an email in response to one of his CraigsList scam
postings:
guy who is doing this is Michael "Joey" Wright of
Frankfort/Lexington KY..... he has used the names of every person he has ever
been in contact with to steal. He is a fulltime thief.
Keith Ratliff
nntllc@gmail.com
ANOTHER reference to "Michael" AND "Kentucky". There IS a Michael Joey Wright in Frankfort/Lexington, KY. Notice how one of the previous victims of 10 years ago, Steven Clark, said he thought his name was "Michael Knight", which is only off by 2
letters and that he got arrested in Jefferson County/
Louisville, KY, just a few miles from Frankfort/Lexington. Coincidence?...... I
don't think so!
Chuck's reply: "Thanks for the
info. How do you know about him?"
Keith's reply: "Lost money to
him when he was running another internet scam some years ago."
Keith's next reply: "I bought
a scooter from him that never came, then he sold a engine or something using my name but
his address and my number.... When I got a call about the engine I got po'ed so I went to
the address which was a trailer park on the westside of Frankfort KY(455 Jones Ln., Frankfort, KY 40601). It was his mom's or dad's house they said he moved to Lexington
off the Richmond Rd. I tried to hunt him down many times. I happened into a grooming shop
in Lexington a few years back and there was the guy who I knew as Joey Wright running the
shop. Needless to say he made all kinds of promises bu went back a couple month later and
he had closed up shop. Ask neighbors but no luck on where he went."
05/15/08
Chuck receives a message from the friend of Gary's:
Hi folks, I strated a thread about this scammer asshole on the amc forum
site. A local fellow here got ripped off and called me. Go read:
http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1210178111
05/12/08
Gary receives another message from Steven Clark:
his name might have been Ken Summers, or Sommers, or that might have been another alias.
05/09/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
CHUCK: "RANDY" HAS CALLED ME TWO
MORE TIMES THIS WEEK, BUT DIDN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE BUT THE NUMBER ON THE CALLER ID WAS THE
"6619" ENDING FROM ARIZONA. IF I SPEAK TO HIM, I'LL TELL HIM I NEED AN ADDRESS
SO I CAN MAIL HIM MONEY FOR THE 401'S. ANY LUCK WITH ANYTHING ELSE...TOM IN MINN.
05/08/08
Gary receives another message from Steven Clark:
Hi Gary, I went through everywhere I might have saved any papers and can't
come up with anything. no emails either becuase I abandoned that address. I
don't think I can help beyond the aliases, Michael Knight
might have been his real name, I know Barlow was an alias,
thats the name he gave me, Knight might have been a name that
the Lagrange guy came up with. Must have been between late 97 and the end of 2000, which is a big range I
know. I think the arrest was some time later in the range. I would see if Jefferson county KY police can find a Michael
or Mike Knight or Barlow alias in a case in 99 or 2000 where some guy from Lagrange (Phil
something???) and possibly me, Steven Clark, were witnesses. This lagrange guy
had a HUGE amount of info on this guy, it was a little weird actually. Maybe it was
his hobby. Its got to be the same scammer, talking about a 401 out of fbi cars and
having me western union the money. Some talk of putting one in a gremlin. maybe
a louisville craigslist add will net some more info? If anything jogs my memory I'll
let you know. Good luck.
Steven Clark
javelin1973401@yahoo.com
05/08/08
Gary receives a message from a guy that saw a posting about this scam on
an AMC website:
From: Steven Clark javelin1973401@yahoo.com
Hello, it's got to be the same guy that got me probably 10 years ago now for 3 or 4
hundered, via our local bargain mart, in louisville ky.
Same song and dance about 401 fbi cars and a shipping
company. I think his alias back then was "michael
knight" or maybe Ray. He ended up getting
arrested in Louisvile and spending some time behind bars, but
I never got a dime of my money back. some guy in lagrange had a bunch of info on the
guy but I can't find his email now.
Steven Clark
*
I'll try to dig up any info that I can. I dont' have any more info in
email but maybe something on paper, I'll have to go through some old stuff to see. I can
almost remember the guy's name in lagrange, I'll keep trying to remember. I'll let
you know. If you got scammed out of enough money, and it was across state lines you
might be able to contact the fbi.
Steven
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The Louisville PD said they could pull
the case:
Louisville Metro Police Department
633 West Jefferson Street
Louisville, Kentucky 40202
(502) 574-7660
http://www.lmpd.org/
05/08/08
Chuck receives a message from Larry about a call
from "Randy":
Chuck: I talked to Randy
today. He said that my parts were 500 miles from me and that he was going to put it
into storage when it got here. I could then get it when the courts released it because he
was having problems with you and Gary. He said I could see it but not get to it and that
we would see each other face to face. I said if it was going into storage I was going to
start the process for him to get locked up. That’s when he started yelling at
me. He said it would cost me at least 5000 to defend against his lawyer. He
said he had nothing to loose and I had it all to loose. He said I would be the one
looking bad. Larry
05/07/08
Chuck receives a message from a friend of Gary's:
I took liberties with your ad as I just talked to a fellow locally who got
taken with scam scam for $700. So I posted this on www.amccars.net
also amc-list, bad ass gremlins, and several online places. Also forwarded the info you
left here to several national AMC clubs and several national mixed make car magazines I
subscribe and contribute to.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@planethoustonamx.com
www.planethoustonamx.com
05/07/08
Gary receives a call from "Randy":
"Randy" called Gary
around 9:30am. He began ranting about Gary and Chuck for 20 minutes, saying that he had to
spend their money to hire an attorney to defend himself against the charges that were
being filed. He stated that because of that, Gary and Chuck would not be receiving a
refund or merchandise. And that because the amount was under $1,000 for each of them, no
felony charges could be placed on him. He stated that because Larry's amount was $3,000
and he wasn't being a "jerk", he would be getting a refund. However, Larry had
heard nothing from "Randy" since last week and his failed delivery date was
yesterday. He taunted Gary by saying "how in the hell are you going to do anything without a last name?". He blamed the failed deliveries on Gary and
Chuck, stating that if we had answered his calls when he was in their areas, they would
have their stuff. NO CALLS were placed by "Randy" to Gary or Chuck on the 19th
and there will be NO phone records to support his claim.
05/06/08
Chuck receives an email from Tom about calls from
"Randy":
CHUCK: ANY RESULTS ON "CATCHING"
RANDY. HE CALLED ME AND LEFT A MESSAGE ON MY ANSWERING MACHINE THIS MORNING
(TUES)...."TOM, IT'S RANDY W/ THE
401'S, GIVE ME A CALL", NO NUMBER AND IT SHOWED
"OUT OF AREA" ON MY ANSWERING MACHINE. THEN HE CALLED ME AGAIN TONIGHT AND LEFT
ANOTHER MESSAGE AND IT SHOWED THE NUMBER FROM AZ WITH THE LAST FOUR
DIGITS...."6619". LET ME KNOW IF I CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE. TOM IN MINN
05/05/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy"s supposed
"counsel":
Mr. Hughes, First of all save your rambling threats
for the person intended. I will handle this matter in the most professional manner
possible. However, I will not tolerate your foul/ignorant mouth. Have your counsel
email me with his contact information, and I will respond accordingly.
Furthermore, I will caution you against filing bogus charges against my client. Slander, libel and defamation suits are very costly no matter the outcome. My client has advised me that he was not in Odessa today, but, Dallas as his message clearly relates...at the parking lot of Medevil Times off Stemmens Freeway. He waited nearly two (2) hours..no-one showed. As to the "alleged others" they will see a refund "if" their actions thus far do not damage my clients reputation further.
You need to remember that charges can come from both ends, as well as civil actions for damages. I have advised my client to file charges for threatening by use of computer, harrassment and fraud. You need to really research what you are talking about before you go off half-cocked! What I mean is simple...
If someone was to plan a game like you accuse, they would most likely buy a second-hand computer, so an IP code would lead you knowwhere. Then they would probably get throw-away cell phones that don't have any personal info attached to them. They also would likely open a walmart acct. in a bogus name. So, you could chase you tail and never get anywhere.
Why I mention this, is simple. If you slander the name of the wrong person, you could end up in financial ruin very fast. wal-mart is in enough trouble right now for stupid actions. I doubt that they will help you at all. So, please don't email me anymore with your mouth. Just have your counsel contact me. It will be much better that way..
Sincerely
B>D> GARRETT
bobbydalegarrett@yahoo.com
NOTE:
Notice that his "legal counsel" misspells
"harassment", one the most common words in the legal community.
ALSO, notice that he states that "Randy" was in Dallas when he called Chuck and
told him to meet him in "1 hour" or he wouldn't get his merchandise. Dallas is
353 miles from Odessa!
05/05/08
Chuck initiates a case with the Odessa Police Dept.:
Officers arrived and wrote the report and issued case #
08-8415.
05/05/08 5:51pm
Chuck receives another call from "Randy" via phone
#702-589-6619:
Chuck received a call from "Randy"s phone
about 2 hours later. He immediately started yelling, saying that they had been
waiting there for and hour and a half. As soon as he got that far, Chuck started saying
"where, where, where". He wouldn't acknowledge him and kept ranting,
saying "we've even had the police waiting
here with us. So you can file all the crap you want", then
he abruptly hung up. The whole time he was spouting his BS, Chuck was getting louder and
louder, asking "where are you, you did not clearly tell me where you were, where
are you?". He never paused in his rambling and immediately hung up after he got
his line of BS out. It's was as if he was leaving a message and Chuck didn't even exist on
the other end of the line. Chuck immediately tried to call him back, but he refused to
answer. So, Chuck called the Odessa Police Dept. to find out where they had an officer on
such a call so he could find him. He was told that they do not do that and had no officers
on a call like that. However, they sent officers to his house to take a report
so he could file charges.
05/05/08 3:56pm
Chuck receives a call from "Randy" or
"his guys" via phone #469-288-3520:
Chuck received a call from 469-288-3520 at 3:56pm. When he answered, he
was immediately told "we're in front of (purposely
unintelligable words) and you've got 1 hour to come get your sh*t, that's one hour, and
you better be packin' your attitude, you f*ckin' punk". After Chuck asked
"where did you say you were", they hung up and IMMEDIATELY turned off
the phone. Chuck left message after message, telling them that he needed to know exactly
where they were and that he was ready to meet them. They refused to call him back. Chuck
also called the 702-589-6619# and left message after message. That phone was also turned
off. He drove down all of the major streets in Odessa and the interstate and
"Randy" and the car were NOWHERE to be found!
05/03/08
Larry receives an email from "Randy"s supposed
"counsel":
Dear Larry,
I am the asst. legal counsel for Worldwide Auto Salvage. I will be over-seeing this matter from now on. Both Randy and I (along with several others in official capacity) agree that it is your voice on the recording left for Randy! No one needs to do business this way Sir.
By this action, your order will not be shipped on Monday hence. Whatever refund will be forwarded to you once we receive your mailing information in a timely manner. I suggest you cease and desist in any further nasty recordings. I would advise you to seek counsel before this matter goes further!
Bobby Dale Garrett
Asst. Legal Counsel
05/02/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI CHUCK: HERE'S THE MAILING ADDRESS I WAS
GIVEN BY "RANDY" W/ THE SUPPOSED 401'S. "3000 NORTH RANCHO, LAS VEGAS, NV 89131". ALSO HERE IS THE "
GREEN, T." AS IT WAS ON MY CALLER ID EARLIER IN THE EVENING BEFORE "RANDY"
CALLED ME: (702)-520-1106. I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS WAS A COINCIDENCE OR IF IT'S ANOTHER TEL.
NO. "RANDY" IS ATTEMPTING TO USE. ALSO, HERE'S A TELEPHONE NUMBER THE LAST TIME
RANDY CALLED ME: (702)-589-6619. I CALLED THIS NUMBER TONIGHT (FRI) AT APPROX 6:30 P.M. MY
TIME. HE DID NOT ANSWER BUT IT ACCEPTED A MESSAGE AND I STATED IN IT: "MY BANKER
STATED I COULD GET THE MONEY FOR THE 401'S, PLEASE CALL ME OR LEAVE A MESSAGE AS TO WHERE
I CAN MAIL THE MONEY"..... SO HOPEFULLY HE WILL
CALL ME BACK IN SHORT TIME......I'M NOT A DETECTIVE BUT....I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO LET
HIM CONTACT ME BEFORE/IF ANYONE ELSE ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT HIM. IF I CAN KEEP THIS PROCESS
GOING, I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. HERE'S MY HOME TEL NO. IF YOU WANT TO
CONTACT ME FOR ANY REASON: (320)-230-0444. HOPE THIS
HELPS, TOM IN MINN. P.S.: I HAVE AN
ANSWERING MACHINE TO ACCEPT HIS MESSAGE....AND ALSO EQUIPMENT TO RECORD HIM IF I HAPPEN TO
BE AT HOME WHEN HE CALLS.
bdorn5352@charter.net
05/02/08
Chuck receives an email from Richard after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
I didn't buy, but you can check this #
"Richard, the engines are 1971 401ci out of ex FBI cars. they have from 67000
to 90,000mi.
you may call me anytine at 615-397-2756."
Richard Cicchino
Shock Sports Inc.
Shock Racing/Winex Helmets
125 E.Ball Rd Suite 250
Anaheim CA, 92805
Tel. 714-520-9992
Fax 714-520-8362
www.shocksports.com
richard@shockracing.com
The text in quotations is a message from "Randy"
to Richard.
05/02/08
Chuck receives an email from Mark after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
i actually talked to this guy 3 times...i may still have his number, he
said he was in las vegas....
ill have to look, i am not even sure i still have it, his name was tom, said he owned a
famous nation wide auto parts network, cant remember that either. Siad he paid teenage
kids to sit on computers and place ads on craiglist, as soon as he said he was in Vegas, i
said i was out, too much scamming and his story was suspicious, i will look, mark
MPARKSMCE@aol.com
05/01/08
Larry receives a call from "Randy":
"Randy" said the engines should be delivered to him next
Tuesday. Larry tried to ask why "Randy"s email address was not
working. He said he was getting a divorce and that his wife was messing with him by
canceling the addresses. He said don’t worry everything will still ship out
ok. He said he was calling from Ohio where he was delivering some parts. Larry
tried to get more info out of him but could not.
05/01/08
Chuck receives an email from Larry after finding
Chuck's ad
about the scam:
Hi, I purchased the 3
engines from him also. He said they would be shipped may 5. I guess I got took
too. I was to call him today to make sure they would go out Monday. I have not
called yet, but will just to see what he says. Larry
*
Chuck: Yes, he talked me
into the GreenDot refill. I bought 3 engines and a javelin he said he
had........
*
.......He sold me the javelin without the 4-speed that he
sold to you. I also bought the 3 401’s. I paid 3000 for everything. He told
me that the javelin was up against a fence and that it was behind 3 other cars and it
would take awhile to get it out. The javelin was to be rust free and an original
4-speed car.......
.......I am in St.Louis, Mo., Larry
stl@radac.com
04/29/08
Gary receives another email from "Randy":
some people play games..don't be a pawn! Donald
Trump! Everyone knows I had three amcs. Duh! Not enough pieces to you game
either! Like I told you, I am sending (your) refund. The other idiot gets a
car! A word of advice. watch what you say about people. If you're wrong, it
could cost you dearly. Get the black and white before you act stupid!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
Notice that he starts by insinuating that Chuck's claim that
they both bought the same car is a "game", but he goes on to say that one buyer
will get refunded and the other will get the car. That doesn't seem necessary if he "had three amcs. Duh!"!
04/29/08
Gary receives an email from "Randy":
Gary, I took this item off craigs list the day we
spoke. I don't have any idea what's on craigs list, I wll not use them
again. Too much shit. People flag the item just because they can't get their way, or
they are not there to take their delivery. Now, as to your accusations, if that is what
you think..GO TO HELL!!! I am sending you a refund. Good luck on finding another good
deal. Funny how our other customer got his chevy motor not far from you!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/29/08
Chuck receives an email from Gary after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
Would you believe I bought it also and he was supposed to deliver it to me
in Houston on 4/19/08. He has not provided it. Please call me at 713-859-7249.
*
Bought the full car. His name was Randy. Never got a last
name. Was supposed to deliver the car on Apr 19. That day came and went. He
told me his delivery guys tried to call me three times then left. I never got a call
from anyone.
Gary R. Parente
BLA-US/Global Production Operations
GSC-EMB-1015K
PH 713-656-6494
FAX 713-656-2726
E-mail: gary.r.parente@exxonmobil.com
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from Jeff after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
I have been in conversations with him for
several weeks about buying one but I am having second thoughts after talking to him. He
says he is in Las Vegas and will ship for free. Won’t accept a cashiers check and
wants money wired. Keeps giving me different dates for shipping. I haven’t sent him
any money. Jeff
Jeff.Youngkin@cobbcounty.org
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from David after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
I emailed the original ad and got a call back from Randy at 702-589-6619,
I think he said it was Worldwide Auto Salvage.
glock20@gmail.com
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from Kirk after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
I talked to the guy about 1-month ago,said he owned this nationwide trans
company and just moved to tennessee or somewhere.I asked him some questions and he said he
new everything about everything and new everyone who could get it-wordwide.If you want any
more info you can leave your tel #-I would be happpy to call you back-unfortunatly it pr
kirk.thompson@earthlink.net
04/24/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
Look dicksucker! I told you when to expect
delivery. Now, you want to go threaten someone again...well...FUCK YOU, Now, we will let
the powers that be deal withit. Any further communication will be considered harrassment
and that adds to your pile! Have your attorney do your talking from now on. You are an
idiot! I have not read any more of your rambling poems. Just saved them for future
use.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/23/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI CHUCK: HE GAVE ME A FIRST
NAME OF "RANDY" BUT I FORGOT TO GET HIS LAST NAME, AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T
THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO ASK FOR IT. YES, HE TOLD ME THE OTHER NIGHT, HE STILL HAD ALL (3) OF THE 401'S, AND HE ALSO TOLD ME FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, THAT ALL (3) HAD
DUAL SNORKEL AIR CLEANERS. HE TOLD ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT ONE OF THEM WAS STILL
IN THE FORMER SQUAD CAR, AND WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM SUNDAY, HE STATED, HE HAD PULLED THAT 401 OUT OF THE CAR. I'LL TRY TO "STRING HIM OUT" AND ATTEMPT TO FIND MORE
INFO FOR YOU.....NO, I DIDN'T SEND ANY MONEY...STAY IN TOUCH. TOM IN MINN.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/22/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI CHARLES: HERE'S THE AZ TEL/MOBILE NUMBER
GIVEN TO ME THAT WAS IN THE 401 AD, AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE NUMBER YOU HAVE: (719)-423-0564.
HE ALSO GAVE ME A AZ ADDRESS: 3000
NORTH RANCHO DRIVE, LAS VEGAS, 89131. UNBELIEVABLY HE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT (MON) AND ASKED ME IF I STILL WANTED THE 401'S. I ASKED HIM TO BRING THEM TO COLORADO SPRINGS, CO WHERE I HAVE A
FRIEND TO INSPECT THEM...HE STATED THEY
WERE STORED IN CAMPO COLORADO WHICH IS BY THE OKLAHOMA
STATE LINE. HE ALSO STATED HE HAD A
FRIEND THERE THAT HAD SOME TYPE OF "PALLET" COMPANY. I MADE SMALL TALK FOR A WHILE AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO CALL ME WITHIN A WEEK, I
TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO TALK TO MY BANKER. I WILL TRY TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH HIM SO I CAN
HELP YOU, BUT PLEASE GIVE ME ANY OTHER INFO YOU HAVE ALSO. I SPOKE TO A DETECTIVE HERE IN
ST. CLOUD, MN AND HE INFORMED ME OF A SITE ON THE INTERNET: "FONE FINDER", TO POSSIBLY LOCATE WHO HAS THE PHONE NUMBER. I WILL
TRY TO "STRING THIS ALONG" AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO GATHER MORE INFO FOR
YOU.......TOM.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/21/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
They called three (3) ASSHOLE. Billy and Red will be
there on the 5th of May. That will give you the opportunity to call them liars to their
face!!!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I do appreciate your rambling "BOOK" it
does prove a good point for me. That point is, that you have already made accusations and
slandered my name. Now, you want me to provide you with more info so you can continue.
"ARE YOU CRAZY?" The reason I don't talk to idiots is clear enough herein. It is
senseless! I am "MAN" enough to do anything you have in mind! I
don't scare! Now, as to the phone records. When I get them and if they don't
prove you were called, I will fire two assholes. On the other hand, if they are on there
(and they will be) I am not going to send you nothing! WHY? Because I want your
faggot-ass to make your accusations and cause your shit, so I can provide them just in
time to fuck your world! It is a funny thing that another customer is willng to go to
court and testify that he got his shipment on time. Oh-yeah... he lives 42 miles
from you! That will go over real good! So, take your empty half-ass threats
down the road. You will get what you paid for and much, much more!! My guys will be
back through there on 5-5-08. I implore you to call them liars. The next contact "as
I said" should be from your atty.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck files a case with the IC3, the FBI's internet fraud division:
Chuck's Complaint Id: I0804201712255752
Gary's Complaint Id: I0804291950445472
Larry's Complaint Id: I0805191403044132
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I havn't returned your call because I generally
don't talk to idiots. They piss me off and shit happens. The libel, slander ASSHOLE comes
from what ever FALSE ACCUSATIONS you are going to make...only to look like a fool. AFTER
you have done your damage. After checking with counsel, your threats are stupid. The Feds
only get involved in situations where the amount is greater than $20.000. Duh! After
seeing your stupidity I would not tell you anything. WHAT? help you be stupid? at my
expense. Have your attorney email me, and I will give him all the infor he can
stand. In the meantime I have all your info and that is something you need to
consider. If the 5th of May passes and you don't have your shit.. then bitch BITCH! In the
meantime I suggest you laydown-shut up and check on another phone co. I did. Go ahead, I
would love to turn this into a $50.000 deal!!!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I have forwarded a copy of your letter to my
attorney, and I have been advised to let him handle it from here on. Before you go running
your mouth, you need to contact an attorney and ask him to explane slander, libel, and
defamation of character. We will have the phone records on monday. Then we will see.
I guess I'm supposed to give you all this INFORMATION to help you slander my name? Believe
me, I am tempted.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
One thing my guys are not..and that's a liar. Your
attitude leads me to believe that either your phone isn't (like mine) working correctly,
or you jacked it and are trying to weasle out! Well, here's HOW it will be done.
"When" they get back, or as soon as their phone record is available on line, I
will confirm whether or not they called you. You can take your "we're going to do it
this way" and stick it up your ass!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck
receives the first email from Tom after finding Chuck's ad about
the scam:
READ YOUR EMAIL SCAM ON THE 401 MOTORS. I
ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE FELLOW AND I DO HAVE AN ADDRESS HE GAVE ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW LEGIT
IT IS BUT HE TOLD ME HE WAS MOVING TO
COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING DIVORCED. I DAMN NEAR SENT MONEY.....AND IT'S FUNNY, NOT REALLY BUT HE STATED TO ME:
" IF IN DOUBT DON'T", IN REFERENCE TO SENDING HIM MONEY. HE ALSO WAS TELLING ME
ABOUT OTHER BRAND MOTORS HE HAD SOLD
AND ALSO SOME TYPE OF "RACE" MOTOR HE SOLD.
IF YOU WANT THAT ADDRESS, I'LL GLADLY EMAIL IT TO YOU IF IT WILL HELP ANYONE. THANK YOU.
*
CHARLES: SORRY TO HEAR THE FELLOW W/ THE 401'S
WAS A SCAMMER. ALSO, AS I WAS TALKING TO HIM VIA TELEPHONE. HE INFORMED ME THAT EITHER HE OR BROTHER OR SOMEBODY WAS IN THE MILITARY AND HE
WAS SCAMMED BY SOMEONE ON TELEPHONE (MOBILE) I BELIEVE, CONTRACTS AND THE PHONES DIDN'T
WORK PROPERELY...SO HE CONTACTED THIS PERSON IN THE MILITARY AND HE GOT ADDRESSES, TEL.
NO'S, AND ADDRESSES OF THE UPPER CEO'S IN THIS COMPANY (CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE)....LONG
STORY SHORT, HE RAISED "HELL" WITH THEM, AND GOT HIS MONEY BACK. I'M NOT AT HOME RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL EMAIL YOU IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS
WITH WHATEVER INFO I WROTE ON PAPER. SORRY, AGAIN. TOM IN ST. CLOUD, MN.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/19/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
My guys were within two hours of you. ..called, got
no answer, and proceeded to East Coast delivery. We will attempt delivery on the way back
4-30-08. If this is not acceptable, we will issue a complete refund. My phone is not
working well either AT&T DUH!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck decides to contact "Randy" from an
alias email address:
Chuck's alias email through "Randy"s
CraigsList ad at 11:55am: "Does it run? How complete is the car?
Thanks"
*
"Randy"s reply at 1:44pm: "I only have one engine and trans left. No car"
*
Chuck's alias reply at 2:33pm: "Can
I take a look at it? Where is it located?"
*
"Randy"s reply at 3:15pm: "Las Vegas NV, worldwideautosalvage@yahoo.com.
(702) 589-6619"
*
Chuck's alias reply at 3:38pm: "My
brother-in-law is there on business. He said he could go by and take a look at it for me.
Also, if it looks like it'll do the job, he can pay for it while he's there. I guess it'll
have to be freight shipped afterwards, if that's what you recommend. What address is it at
and what would be a good day and time for him to see it?"
*
"Randy"s reply at 4:58pm: "This item was sold earlier. Check back later. We may have another."
04/19/08
Chuck gets suspicious after waiting most of the day, starts checking
CraigsList and finds:
"Randy"s other ad in Atlanta:
AMC 401 engine/trans low miles 335hp 1971
model. In vehicle. will deliver free. magnumenterprisesinc@yahoo.com
And "Randy"s 3rd ad in Denver:
401 AMC engine and trans (have 3) out of 71
AMC Ambass. FBI car, 335 Factorty hp. aprox. 67000miles. Delivery available.
Autotransportersofamerica@yahoo.com. (719) 423-0564.
It is discovered later that he had another ad on the
Indianapolis CraigsList:
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/630327202.html
04/19/08
Chuck and Gary wait for their delivery of the
same car:
Chuck and Gary wait for the
delivery that never comes. Both were by their phones all day and never received or missed
a call from "Randy" or "his guys".
04/09/08
Chuck pays "Randy":
As instructed by "Randy", Chuck goes to WalMart and purchases a GreenDot MoneyPak refill in the amount of $950, which covers the
purchase of the '71 Ambassador FBI car, with it's drivetrain, and a 4-speed transmisssion.
Chuck provides the MoneyPak activation # to "Randy". "Randy" states
that the car and transmission will be delivered to him on 04/19/08.
He states that "his guys" will call Chuck when they are about 2 hours away, so
Chuck has time to prepare.
04/09/08
Chuck calls "Randy" at 702-589-6619:
"Randy" states that the motor mentioned in the ad is still in
the car. He states that Chuck can either pay for freight or, if he can wait until the
19th, the motor can be delivered for free. He goes on to say that the car has a posi rear
end and Chuck can have the whole car and rear end at the same price if he's willing to
save "Randy" the trouble of pulling the motor and trans and having the useless
car left over. Chuck agrees that he can take the whole car so he can get the rear end.
"Randy" states that he was formerly a member of an AMC
club, has allot of spare parts laying around and comes across AMC parts frequently
if Chuck needs anything else. Chuck asks about a 4-speed manual transmission for an AMX.
"Randy" says that he has one and Chuck can have it for an additional $250. Chuck
agrees to purchase the complete car and the 4-speed transmission. "Randy"
suggests that Chuck pay by WalMart's GreenDot MoneyPak refill
service, so he can save on the money transfer charges.
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 4th email from "Randy":
Call me. (702) 589-6619
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
Sounds good. How would you like to handle the transaction?
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 3rd email from "Randy":
when they are paid for! Have two already
out!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
I would like to buy them. When do you plan on pulling them
out?
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 2nd email from "Randy":
100% complete, 68K 727 trans, have 3 of these, worldwideautosalvage@yahoo.com, or (702)
589-6619. Shipping over 500.00 is free. Randy
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
How complete is the motor? What trans?
04/09/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
In a car running (68000mi) 727 TF.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
How complete is the motor? What trans?
04/09/08
Chuck contacts "Randy" about his ad on the Dallas
CraigsList that stated:
401 AMC motor and trans...68,000mi 1971 ambassador
FBI car. 335 factory hp. e-mail, rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/629554295.html
Chuck's Info:
$950 victim of "Randy" - Bought '71 Ambassador w/Drivetrain & 4-speed
Charles Hughes
Odessa, TX
IC3 case # I0804201712255752
chughes@grandecom.net
432-552-7424
432-352-7424
Gary's Info:
$700 victim of "Randy" - Bought '71 Ambassador w/Drivetrain
Gary R. Parente
Houston, TX
IC3 case # I0804291950445472
grparen@earthlink.net
713-656-6494
Larry's Info:
$3,000 victim of "Randy" - Bought All 3 401 motors and a Javelin
Larry
St. Louis, MO
IC3 case # I0805191403044132
stl@radac.com
"Randy"s Info:
"Randy" with "Worldwide Auto Salvage" - Names used on this scam
"Michael Joey Wright" of Frankfort/Lexington,
KY - POSSIBLE ACTUAL IDENTITY
| 455 Jones Ln., Frankfort, KY 40601 | - Previous address of "Michael Joey Wright" Residence of his relative, Michael W. Wright |
"Michael Knight" - possible alias
"Michael Barlow" - possible alias
"Ray"
- possible alias
"Ken Summers" or "Sommers" or "Sumners" - possible alias
| 3000 North Rancho Dr Las Vegas, NV 89131 |
- Address used on this scam |
702-589-6619 - shows to be in Las Vegas, NV
719-423-0564 -
shows to be in Pueblo, CO (now disconnected)
615-397-2756 -
shows to be in Nashville, TN (now disconnected)
469-288-3520 -
shows to be in Dallas, TX (now disconnected)
Autotransportersofamerica@yahoo.com
(cancelled)
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com (cancelled)
magnumenterprisesinc@yahoo.com (cancelled)
His "legal counsel" is "Bobby Dale Garrett" at
bobbydalegarrett@yahoo.com .
Suposedly, "Randy"(aka "Michael Knight") got busted in Jefferson
County, Kentucky for this same scam about 10 years
ago.
Jefferson County/Louisville, KY is 55 miles
from Frankfort, KY, where Michael Joey Wright lives.